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harry reid said i made a deal with mcconnell it's going to be ok. the republicans aren't going to filibuster. dick durbin said at the time: cenk: positive environment, the republicans aren't going to filibuster anymore. they got a deal, so we didn't have to take it away. what happened today when senator hagel, a republican up for secretary of defense? the republicans filibustered. >> on this vote, the aye58 the nays 40, one senator announced present. 50% of the senators not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to. cenk: even though 58 senators say yes let's end the debate and confirm him nope, not going to end the debate, because the republicans filibustering. now harry reid is shocked to find out that the republicans were not true to their word! >> the republicans have made an unfortunate choice to up the level here in washington. just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it gets worse. we need this vote today. why? times like this, it's nice to have a secretary of defense. cenk: man, harry reid, oh, you're killing 'em y
harry reid said i made a deal with mcconnell it's going to be ok. the republicans aren't going to filibuster. dick durbin said at the time: cenk: positive environment, the republicans aren't going to filibuster anymore. they got a deal, so we didn't have to take it away. what happened today when senator hagel, a republican up for secretary of defense? the republicans filibustered. >> on this vote, the aye58 the nays 40, one senator announced present. 50% of the senators not having voted...
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harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we have no secretary of defense for the next 10 days and in the middle of at war. harry reid pointed out yesterday, this was his first. >> first time in the history of our country, if secretary of defense had been filibustered successfully >> bill: there is no doubt who is to blame. mitch mcconnell didn't do anything to stop it. >> to. >> just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> bill: shocking, said the majority leader. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered sec
harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we...
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. ♪ >> can we talk about harry reid's gift? harry reid owns what happened with this fill buster. this is all him. he had the chance. not only did he promise he would do something about it, he had the chance to do something about it on the first day of the senate session. he could have done it with a 51% vote for filibuster reform and he didn't and we paid the price for it. stephanie: i couldn't believe he used the word shocking here. senator harry reid yesterday on the senate floor. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered secretary of defense during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. stephanie: also shocked to find out there's gambling going on in vegas. >> few leon panetta has to go to the nato summit in brussels. he's like george bailey. he's never getting out of bedford falls. i got big plans. i love her. she's a peach. >> because republicans have a punish a republican for the crime of being right about iraq. stephanie: exactly. this talking voice memo, filibuster will fall shortly nomination blah b
. ♪ >> can we talk about harry reid's gift? harry reid owns what happened with this fill buster. this is all him. he had the chance. not only did he promise he would do something about it, he had the chance to do something about it on the first day of the senate session. he could have done it with a 51% vote for filibuster reform and he didn't and we paid the price for it. stephanie: i couldn't believe he used the word shocking here. senator harry reid yesterday on the senate floor....
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on the democratic side, why did harry reid go ahead with the vote when he didn't have to? harry reid and democrats get to spend the next ten days saying that republicans are mounting unprecedented filibusters against the secretary of defense, that they are rolling hand grenades into the senate and they won't cooperate with barack obama. is. >> warner: helps them make that point. mark, how does this look over tent gone to the folks are talking to you there there? >> it lookser the to believe people overseas. inside the pentagon they are consumed right now with the sequester. the looming $500 billionnd budget cuts. they don't need this monkey wrench thrown into the works. hagel has support in the pentagon but there's leeriness, he didn't do very well in his confirmation hearing and there is blood in the water and the they're moving inÑi for the kil. basically i think what's happening and what happened today is the sense that this is another ten days for drips, drips, drips that could send his nomination into a tail spin. but basically the military's professional. ash carter
on the democratic side, why did harry reid go ahead with the vote when he didn't have to? harry reid and democrats get to spend the next ten days saying that republicans are mounting unprecedented filibusters against the secretary of defense, that they are rolling hand grenades into the senate and they won't cooperate with barack obama. is. >> warner: helps them make that point. mark, how does this look over tent gone to the folks are talking to you there there? >> it lookser the to...
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some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on immigration. i agree with david. i think this will get done but it's never great for a nominee to have to wait another week to hang out there and take shots from opposition. it's not a great place for them to be but i'm not worried that this is not going to get through but this is the flexing of the muscle by republicans in the senate for sure. >> okay. so hagel gets blocked at least for now. rand paul and others are threatening to block john brennan. susan rice didn't get to the nomination process. is this rocky road if that's how we want to describe it, david, does this hurt the president's credibility or at least his ability to get things done, a small distraction, should it become a smaller one? put it into the wider con tech in terms of what the white house want to be accomplishing
some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on immigration. i agree with david. i think this will get done but it's never great for a nominee to have to wait another week to hang out there and take shots from opposition. it's not a great place for them to be but...
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that left harry reid with just 59 of the 60 votes needed to move on to confirmation marking the first ever successful filibuster of a cabinet nominee. because of the coming senate recess, the next chance to confirm hagel will be the last week of february. in the meantime, republicans continued to find new reasons to justify they are obstruction. senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against
that left harry reid with just 59 of the 60 votes needed to move on to confirmation marking the first ever successful filibuster of a cabinet nominee. because of the coming senate recess, the next chance to confirm hagel will be the last week of february. in the meantime, republicans continued to find new reasons to justify they are obstruction. senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked...
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what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the institution. there's nothing in the actual rule, short of changing them, that is going to stop this. there's all the incentives for more of this to happen. so i'm sorry, it's a little hard for me to be particularly sympathetic to harry reid when he gets up there saying oh my god, look at these people abusing the filibuster. yeah, that's been the case, you had a chance to do something about it and didn't. >> republicans look at jim demint retire and replaced immediately with a possibly crazier senator from texas, ted cruz. john mccain was outraged that cruz questioned the patriotism, the l
what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the...
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harry reid decided he would just instead make a handshake deal with the republicans' top senator, mitch mcconnell. he said he was satisfied with the republicans just agreeing to be more reasonable on issues like this. remember? they wouldn't change the filibuster rules. they would just agree as gentlemen that the republicans would curtail the excesses of filibustering everything and effectively ruling from the minority. democrats decided to not change the rules on the filibuster and just make that agreement with the republicans instead. they said, you know, at a minimum this will at least improve the confirmation process for the administration's nominees. how is that working out now? just a couple of weeks later. how's that gentleman's agreement going? now that we've just had a filibuster of a cabinet nominee for the first time in american history. joining us now is andrea mitchell, nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, the host of "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. andr andrea, it's great having you here tonight. >> thank you very much. thanks, rachel. >> what happens next here?
harry reid decided he would just instead make a handshake deal with the republicans' top senator, mitch mcconnell. he said he was satisfied with the republicans just agreeing to be more reasonable on issues like this. remember? they wouldn't change the filibuster rules. they would just agree as gentlemen that the republicans would curtail the excesses of filibustering everything and effectively ruling from the minority. democrats decided to not change the rules on the filibuster and just make...
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it will proceed in 11 days' time, when harry reid set the next vote. here is a statement from the white house -- as we go on, we will hear from republicans about why they voted the way they did. we will read some more in the news. but he would brandon has a say in ohio, a republican column. good morning. caller: i live in the north- central part of ohio. i believe that the republicans did the correct thing by mounting this will not to proceed. it is very frustrating for somebody like me to see the majority leader harry reid, on the senate floor and give ashe deal -- come up on the senate floor and give a temper tan trum. i do not believe the president has the right to have his defense secretary affirmed. it is the senate's job to affirm the nominee. if republican senators want to vote no, that is their choice. the majority leader should not shamed the republicans into voting yes because he thinks that is the correct thing to do. host: what do you make of the reporter we just talked to, mentioning that he may get confirmed in two weeks' time? does that
it will proceed in 11 days' time, when harry reid set the next vote. here is a statement from the white house -- as we go on, we will hear from republicans about why they voted the way they did. we will read some more in the news. but he would brandon has a say in ohio, a republican column. good morning. caller: i live in the north- central part of ohio. i believe that the republicans did the correct thing by mounting this will not to proceed. it is very frustrating for somebody like me to see...
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. >> you talk about fending off challenges from the right, harry reid says that's absolutely what's going on with the chuck hagel situation. he says i guess to be able to run for the senate, you are need to have a resumÉ that says i helped filibuster one of the president's nominees. maybe that helps keep a tea party guy or woman from running against you. do you really think that it will help somebody when they go back to their district for an election in 2014 that they're able to say i stood up to the president on chuck hagel? >> i think that, look, most americans i think are not terribly tuned into the nomination process of chuck hagel, probably doesnn't have strong feelings about him. say you're lindsay graham and you have a town meeting, a lot of people are thinking is graham really with us? is he fighting the president to the wall the way we want him to? lindsay graham does have to be very concerned about getting primaried. everyone's talking about chuck hagel. i think back in their district the intensity, the people who demonstrate real interest, intensity and knowledge about the si
. >> you talk about fending off challenges from the right, harry reid says that's absolutely what's going on with the chuck hagel situation. he says i guess to be able to run for the senate, you are need to have a resumÉ that says i helped filibuster one of the president's nominees. maybe that helps keep a tea party guy or woman from running against you. do you really think that it will help somebody when they go back to their district for an election in 2014 that they're able to say i...
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>> listen if harry reid wanted to bring it up he could cancel a vacation and come in next week if he wanted. the real easy answer is immediately provide the information. there is a history with the administration and the majority party not providing all of the information. they will provide a little bit here, a little bit there. hopefully you will forget about it. bottom line if they want to get this done, they should sit down with the concerned senators and actually provide the appropriate information. that is pretty simple. bill: this is what we heard. at least two of the speeches apparently were made, four, maybe five years ago that were not provided. was it intentional for him not to present these speeches because they thought it would be controversial? >> i'm not sure, certainly. but they are, people are aware of them and they need to be part of the entire package that is being presented. and the senators have an absolute right to get this information. bill: senator lindsey graham has been hot on this trail and his big issue is not having the answers on what happened the night o
>> listen if harry reid wanted to bring it up he could cancel a vacation and come in next week if he wanted. the real easy answer is immediately provide the information. there is a history with the administration and the majority party not providing all of the information. they will provide a little bit here, a little bit there. hopefully you will forget about it. bottom line if they want to get this done, they should sit down with the concerned senators and actually provide the...
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and harry reid the majority leader. and the democrats are in control of both. if you think back at what happened back in during the last bush administration, we had exactly the reverse. george bush was president of the united states, and the democrats were the minority. same situation. so what happened? first of all, we had both come up. john bolton same thing. subjected to a 60-vote margin. we had steve -- we remember dirk, there a lot of people that it not approve of him. he was appointed by bush, a republican, and then when he came over here the democrats didn't like him. they subjected him to a 60-vote margin. that wasn't a filibuster. it's not a filibuster today. people are trying to blame me the bad guy causing a filibuster. it's not the case at all. it anymore the case than the 2005, 2006, and other times when we had a nominee put forth by president wush who was objected to by the democrat. dirk when he was nominated to be the secretary of entire job, there was a lot of opposition to them. we said we have to subject him to a 60-vote threshold. well, that
and harry reid the majority leader. and the democrats are in control of both. if you think back at what happened back in during the last bush administration, we had exactly the reverse. george bush was president of the united states, and the democrats were the minority. same situation. so what happened? first of all, we had both come up. john bolton same thing. subjected to a 60-vote margin. we had steve -- we remember dirk, there a lot of people that it not approve of him. he was appointed by...
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host: harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the hours following the terrorist attack in libya. the white house sent a letter to senators john mccain, lindsey gramm, kelly ayotte, who have been demanding more information. they hoped from soundness yesterday or the day before that they would be able to change minds and make these centers -- senators vote yes. there is information that republicans say they want. it also seems like they were unhappy with his pick, they wanted -- wanted a different tack, and they did not -- they did not want to be conciliatory about it. host: 1 vote for present. why did they go that way? guest: senator hatch of voted present. it beats me why he did. you either vote yes or no. there is a rumor that he did not believe in the filibuster. if you do not believe in the filibuster, you should probably vote yes. republican leadership
host: harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the hours following the terrorist attack in libya. the white house sent a letter to senators john mccain, lindsey gramm, kelly ayotte, who have been demanding more information. they hoped from soundness yesterday or the day before that they would be able to change...
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after harry reid said the republicans were filibustering hagel, he called for a vote yesterday. cloture, filibuster, what is it? >> cloture is a maneuver to limit debate to essentially end a filibuster. >> to get to the vote already? >> to get to the vote. a filibuster is where you're delaying and you keep talking or keep having procedural delays to keep something from passing or from being -- someone from being confirmed. i'll say this, is one of the conundrums the republicans have been having is that sometimes senator reid will actually file a motion for cloture to limit debate when there hasn't actually been a filibuster present. >> some are crying foul on that. back to the nomination, is it a smoke screen of sorts to bring up issues that you mentioned, talking about the attack in libya, and other issues before? have we not gone through these sort of hearings, or is this legitimate, legitimate concerns republicans need answers before a vote can happen? >> well, this is the way the process works. i was talking a couple of days ago to senator lindsey graham from south carolina,
after harry reid said the republicans were filibustering hagel, he called for a vote yesterday. cloture, filibuster, what is it? >> cloture is a maneuver to limit debate to essentially end a filibuster. >> to get to the vote already? >> to get to the vote. a filibuster is where you're delaying and you keep talking or keep having procedural delays to keep something from passing or from being -- someone from being confirmed. i'll say this, is one of the conundrums the...
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harry reid said just when you thought things continue get worscouldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> senator reid is sanctimonious on this point blaming the republicans and getting all up in arms about the fact that the republicans are holding off on this nomination when the democrats have performed similar maneuvers to try to block republican nominees including george h.w. bush's choice for defense secretary john tower. and nominee john bolton. jon: this is the kind of thing that has happened before. >> on both side, correct. nothing new here. jon: why are the administration, and democrats in the senate making it out as though the sky is falling here? >> they are trying to make a political argument that the republicans are just doing this for politics but nothing could be further from the truth. chuck hagel is a very problematic nominee. he had one of the most disastrous confirmation hearing performances in recent history. we are still getting information that he should have disclosed at the outset when he was first nominated about speeches he has given and so forth. there is a lot of infor
harry reid said just when you thought things continue get worscouldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> senator reid is sanctimonious on this point blaming the republicans and getting all up in arms about the fact that the republicans are holding off on this nomination when the democrats have performed similar maneuvers to try to block republican nominees including george h.w. bush's choice for defense secretary john tower. and nominee john bolton. jon: this is the kind of thing that has...
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host: harry reid set a new vote in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: well, they say they would like answers, again, from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the terrorist attack in libya. the white house has sent a letter to senators john mccain and others giving them more information. they had hoped by sending this yesterday or the day before, that they could change minds and make the senators vote yes to proceed to the vote even if they wanted to reject hagel's nomination. it wasn't. it seems like they are unhappy with this pick, they wanted the president to make a different pick, and they wanted to be -- host: we did see four republicans cross over and vote with democrats and one voting present and not voting to move forward or not. why did they go that way and who were they? guest: senator hatch was one. either you vote yes or you vote no. there was talk that he doesn't believe in the filibuster so he did not want to vote no. i think you should probably vote yes. but republican leadership was actively
host: harry reid set a new vote in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: well, they say they would like answers, again, from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do in the terrorist attack in libya. the white house has sent a letter to senators john mccain and others giving them more information. they had hoped by sending this yesterday or the day before, that they could change minds and make the senators vote yes to proceed to the...